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{{ | {{Release | ||
| Name | | Name=Place To Start | ||
| Artist | | Artist=Mike Shinoda | ||
| | | Type=song | ||
| Cover | | Release=[[Post Traumatic]] | ||
| Working title | | Cover=EP-Post Traumatic.jpg | ||
| Recorded | | Working title= | ||
| Released | | Recorded=2017 | ||
| Format | | Released=January 25, 2018<!-- YYYY|MM|DD}} --> | ||
| Length | | Format= | ||
| Stems | | Length=2:13 | ||
| Time signature | | Stems= | ||
| Tempo | | Time signature=4/4 | ||
| Key | | Tempo=105 | ||
| Samples | | Key=B Minor | ||
| References | | Samples= | ||
| Live debut | | References= | ||
| Last played | | Live debut=[[Live:20180512-2|May 12, 2018]] | ||
| Writer | | Last played= | ||
| Producer | | Writer=Mike Shinoda | ||
| Label | | Producer=Mike Shinoda | ||
| | | Label=Warner Bros. Records | ||
| Tracklist= | |||
# [[Place To Start]] | # [[Place To Start]] | ||
# [[Over Again]] | # [[Over Again]] | ||
# [[Watching As I Fall]] | # [[Watching As I Fall]] | ||
# [[Nothing Makes Sense Anymore]] | # [[Nothing Makes Sense Anymore]] | ||
# [[About You]] | # [[About You]] (feat. Blackbear) | ||
# [[Brooding]] | # [[Brooding]] | ||
# [[Promises I Can't Keep]] | # [[Promises I Can't Keep]] | ||
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# [[Hold It Together]] | # [[Hold It Together]] | ||
# [[Ghosts]] | # [[Ghosts]] | ||
# [[Make It Up As I Go]] | # [[Make It Up As I Go]] (feat. K.Flay) | ||
# [[Lift Off]] | # [[Lift Off]] (feat. Chino Moreno & Machine Gun Kelly) | ||
# [[I.O.U]] | # [[I.O.U]] | ||
# [[Running From My Shadow]] | # [[Running From My Shadow]] (feat. grandson) | ||
# [[World's On Fire]] | # [[World's On Fire]] | ||
# [[Can't Hear You Now]] | # [[Can't Hear You Now]] | ||
}} | }} | ||
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Mike later said that he was essentially out-voted by the rest of the band when he wanted the track to open ''[[One More Light]]''. | Mike later said that he was essentially out-voted by the rest of the band when he wanted the track to open ''[[One More Light]]''. | ||
The end of the track features voicemails from three people, two being Linkin Park videographer Mark Fiore and bandmate Phoenix, who were checking on Mike following Chester Bennington's death. The third voicemail | The end of the track features voicemails from three people, two being Linkin Park videographer Mark Fiore and bandmate Phoenix, who were checking on Mike following Chester Bennington's death. The third voicemail was finally confirmed in early 2020 as being from Mike's friend, Cory Sandelius with whom he went to college.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnYQIoE9g_g Monday! What should we do or make today? Come say hi. - YouTube], April 20, 2020</ref><ref>[https://www.coreysandelius.com/sandeliusabout About — corey sandelius]</ref> He had taken photos of Linkin Park back in 1999.<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/BW5-HC2gvBk/ Corey Sandelius on Instagram], July 23, 2017</ref> | ||
==Music Video== | ==Music Video== | ||
The music videos on the ''[[Post Traumatic EP]]'' are described as "cinéma vérité", shot in a way that doesn't obscure the fact that they're real life.<ref name="CinemaVerite">[https://twitter.com/mikeshinoda/status/956599173670780929 Mike Shinoda on Twitter: "My friend said the videos are “cinema verite.” Shot in a way that doesn’t obscure the fact that they’re real life. The music is that way too. The car horn was audible on the mic when I was trying to record, which was super annoying. #PostTraumatic… https://t.co/fTsDurQOqk" .], January 25, 2018</ref> Mike says he wanted to shoot a video while feeling something.<ref name="OverAgain">[https://twitter.com/mikeshinoda/status/956599358983626753 Mike Shinoda on Twitter: "(1/2) On this project, I’m trying to work “in the moment.” I record a vocal or shoot a video while I’m feeling something. For example, I wrote and recorded verse one of “over again” on the day of the Bowl show, and did verse two the day after. #PostTraumatic" .], January 25, 2018</ref> He explained, ''"Grief is so personal, and I thought that a D.I.Y., autobiographical format made the most sense. So I shot & edited everything in the videos myself. I‘m planning to continue doing it this way until it doesn’t feel right anymore, or until the work becomes too much."''<ref>[https://twitter.com/mikeshinoda/status/956600106366611456 Mike Shinoda on Twitter: "Grief is so personal, and I thought that a D.I.Y., autobiographical format made the most sense. So I shot & edited everything in the videos myself. I‘m planning to continue doing it this way until it doesn’t feel right anymore, or until the work becomes too much. #PostTraumatic… https://t.co/6o8xU8KTZL" .], January 25, 2018</ref> | The music videos on the ''[[Post Traumatic EP]]'' are described as "cinéma vérité", shot in a way that doesn't obscure the fact that they're real life.<ref name="CinemaVerite">[https://twitter.com/mikeshinoda/status/956599173670780929 Mike Shinoda on Twitter: "My friend said the videos are “cinema verite.” Shot in a way that doesn’t obscure the fact that they’re real life. The music is that way too. The car horn was audible on the mic when I was trying to record, which was super annoying. #PostTraumatic… https://t.co/fTsDurQOqk" .], January 25, 2018</ref> Mike says he wanted to shoot a video while feeling something.<ref name="OverAgain">[https://twitter.com/mikeshinoda/status/956599358983626753 Mike Shinoda on Twitter: "(1/2) On this project, I’m trying to work “in the moment.” I record a vocal or shoot a video while I’m feeling something. For example, I wrote and recorded verse one of “over again” on the day of the Bowl show, and did verse two the day after. #PostTraumatic" .], January 25, 2018</ref> He explained, ''"Grief is so personal, and I thought that a D.I.Y., autobiographical format made the most sense. So I shot & edited everything in the videos myself. I‘m planning to continue doing it this way until it doesn’t feel right anymore, or until the work becomes too much."''<ref>[https://twitter.com/mikeshinoda/status/956600106366611456 Mike Shinoda on Twitter: "Grief is so personal, and I thought that a D.I.Y., autobiographical format made the most sense. So I shot & edited everything in the videos myself. I‘m planning to continue doing it this way until it doesn’t feel right anymore, or until the work becomes too much. #PostTraumatic… https://t.co/6o8xU8KTZL" .], January 25, 2018</ref> | ||
All three of the EP videos were released by Mike on January 25th, 2018, the day the EP was released. | |||
==Versions== | ==Versions== | ||
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==Live== | ==Live== | ||
"Place To Start" got its live debut at Mike's [ | "Place To Start" got its live debut at Mike's [[Live:20180512-2|Identity LA performance]], being played after "[[Welcome]]". The song was performed without the voicemails that end the studio version of the song. Though the song started as a staple in the set, it was largely dropped following his show in [[Live:20180816|Chengdu]]. It was only performed once after that show, in [[Live:20181106|San Francisco]]. Mike said in an interview that the song is hard on him emotionally, leading to him performing it less often. <ref>[https://loudwire.com/interview-post-traumatic-mike-shinoda/ Interview: What Does ‘Post Traumatic’ Mean to Mike Shinoda?], November 2018</ref>. | ||
Mike said, ''"The ones I perform in the set were chosen because I knew that I could sing them. [The album opener] “Place to Start” is a bit hard for me to perform emotionally, so I do that one in moderation. That one’s a little hard because I did it in the beginning of the process of everything, and the first verse of “Over Again” is tough, so I don’t do that for some of the shows. It’s more self-care than anything."''<ref>https://loudwire.com/interview-post-traumatic-mike-shinoda/ Interview: What Does ‘Post Traumatic’ Mean to Mike Shinoda?</ref> | Mike said, ''"The ones I perform in the set were chosen because I knew that I could sing them. [The album opener] “Place to Start” is a bit hard for me to perform emotionally, so I do that one in moderation. That one’s a little hard because I did it in the beginning of the process of everything, and the first verse of “Over Again” is tough, so I don’t do that for some of the shows. It’s more self-care than anything."''<ref>https://loudwire.com/interview-post-traumatic-mike-shinoda/ Interview: What Does ‘Post Traumatic’ Mean to Mike Shinoda?</ref> | ||
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| Alternative | | Alternative | ||
| Shortened (No Voicemail Outro) | | Shortened (No Voicemail Outro) | ||
| [ | | [[Live:20180512-2|May 12, 2018]] | ||
| [ | | [[Live:20181106|November 6, 2018]] | ||
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==Lyrics== | ==Lyrics== | ||
{{ | {{hidden begin|title=Album Version}} | ||
<poem> | <poem> | ||
I don't have a leg to stand on | I don't have a leg to stand on | ||
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I know you're super busy, didn't wanna bother you, um, just wanted to let you know I'm thinking about you | I know you're super busy, didn't wanna bother you, um, just wanted to let you know I'm thinking about you | ||
Give me a call back if you want, if not, I guet that too, um, but I'm sure I will see you and/or talk to you sometime soon. Alright bud, hope you're hanging in there. See ya</poem> | Give me a call back if you want, if not, I guet that too, um, but I'm sure I will see you and/or talk to you sometime soon. Alright bud, hope you're hanging in there. See ya</poem> | ||
{{ | {{hidden end}} | ||
==External Links== | ==External Links== | ||
Latest revision as of 21:43, 22 February 2024
| "Place To Start" | |
|---|---|
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| Song by Mike Shinoda | |
| from the album Post Traumatic | |
| Recorded: | 2017 |
| Released: | January 25, 2018 |
| Length: | 2:13 |
| Time signature: | 4/4 |
| Tempo: | 105 |
| Key: | B Minor |
| Live debut: | May 12, 2018 |
| Writer: | Mike Shinoda |
| Producer: | Mike Shinoda |
| Label: | Warner Bros. Records |
| Post Traumatic tracklist | |
| |
"Place To Start" is the first song on Mike Shinoda's Post Traumatic EP as well as the first song on his debut studio album, Post Traumatic.
Background
"Place To Start" is the only song on the Post Traumatic EP not to be performed entirely by Mike Shinoda as Rob Bourdon provided percussion on the song.[1] He said, "I made the music / track of “Place To Start” while we were working on the OML album. Rob did brushes and crashes on it back then."[2]
On an interview to Kerrang!, he further elaborated saying, "That track actually started during the [2017 album] One More Light sessions. I had brought it in as a demo and never developed it all the way to the finish. There was a time when I thought that should be the intro to the One More Light album, actually. When I listened back to it, the idea of starting the EP before Chester passed away was something I thought was nice. There was an element of that that felt... older. The lyrics are all new... Well, I shouldn't say 'all new', but they are through the lens of where I was at that particular moment. I wanted to get people, in a sense, caught up with the answer to the question that everyone asks: 'How are you doing?'"[3]
Mike told Genius, "The demo of this song began during the recording sessions for (the Linkin Park album) "One More Light." I had almost made it the intro of that album. Something about making it the intro of my album seemed right. I revised some of the lyrics to reflect where I was at when I began writing, after Chester had passed. I also kept Rob Bourdon’s snare brush sounds and crashes."
Mike later said that he was essentially out-voted by the rest of the band when he wanted the track to open One More Light.
The end of the track features voicemails from three people, two being Linkin Park videographer Mark Fiore and bandmate Phoenix, who were checking on Mike following Chester Bennington's death. The third voicemail was finally confirmed in early 2020 as being from Mike's friend, Cory Sandelius with whom he went to college.[4][5] He had taken photos of Linkin Park back in 1999.[6]
Music Video
The music videos on the Post Traumatic EP are described as "cinéma vérité", shot in a way that doesn't obscure the fact that they're real life.[7] Mike says he wanted to shoot a video while feeling something.[8] He explained, "Grief is so personal, and I thought that a D.I.Y., autobiographical format made the most sense. So I shot & edited everything in the videos myself. I‘m planning to continue doing it this way until it doesn’t feel right anymore, or until the work becomes too much."[9]
All three of the EP videos were released by Mike on January 25th, 2018, the day the EP was released.
Versions
Note: Only the date of the very first release of each version is listed.
| Title | Album | Length | Recorded | Released | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Place To Start | Post Traumatic EP | 2:13 | 2017 | January 25, 2018 | |
| Place To Start (Instrumental) (105 BPM) | Post Traumatic EP - Acapellas & Instrumentals
Post Traumatic - Instrumentals |
1:37 | 2017 | February 15, 2018 |
|
| Place To Start (Acapella) | Post Traumatic EP - Acapellas & Instrumentals | 2:16 | 2017 | February 15, 2018 |
|
Live
"Place To Start" got its live debut at Mike's Identity LA performance, being played after "Welcome". The song was performed without the voicemails that end the studio version of the song. Though the song started as a staple in the set, it was largely dropped following his show in Chengdu. It was only performed once after that show, in San Francisco. Mike said in an interview that the song is hard on him emotionally, leading to him performing it less often. [10].
Mike said, "The ones I perform in the set were chosen because I knew that I could sing them. [The album opener] “Place to Start” is a bit hard for me to perform emotionally, so I do that one in moderation. That one’s a little hard because I did it in the beginning of the process of everything, and the first verse of “Over Again” is tough, so I don’t do that for some of the shows. It’s more self-care than anything."[11]
Variations
Last Updated: July 17, 2018
| Type | Description | First Played | Last Played |
|---|---|---|---|
| Alternative | Shortened (No Voicemail Outro) | May 12, 2018 | November 6, 2018 |
Personnel
- Written and produced by Mike Shinoda
- Vocals by Mike Shinoda
- Percussion on "Place To Start" by Rob Bourdon
- Mixed by Mike Shinoda
- Mastered by Michelle Mancini
Lyrics
I don't have a leg to stand on
Spinning like a whirlwind nothing to land on
Came so far never thought it'd be done now
Stuck in a holding pattern waiting to come down
Did somebody else define me
Can I put the past behind me
Do I even have a decision
Feeling like I'm living in a story already written
Am I part of a vision / made by somebody else
Pointing fingers at villains but I’m the villain myself
Or am I out of conviction with no wind in the sail
Too focused on the end and simply ready to fail
Cause I’m tired of the fear that I can’t control this
I’m tired of feeling like every next step’s hopeless
I’m tired of being scared what I build might break apart
I don’t want to know the end, all I want is a place to start (Ooooh)
I don’t want to know the end, all I want is a place to start (Ooooh)
Hey Mike, uh, just calling to uh, you know, send my condolences
Hey man, it's Mark, just calling to check in onn you, see how you're doing
What up Mike? Just calling to see how you're doing, check in with you a little bit
Wanna obviously send my love and support and, um, just let you know I'm here for you
I know you're super busy, didn't wanna bother you, um, just wanted to let you know I'm thinking about you
Give me a call back if you want, if not, I guet that too, um, but I'm sure I will see you and/or talk to you sometime soon. Alright bud, hope you're hanging in there. See ya
External Links
- Place To Start (Official Video): YouTube
References
- ↑ Mike Shinoda – Place To Start Lyrics | Genius Lyrics, March 21, 2018
- ↑ Mike Shinoda on Twitter: "I made the music / track of “Place To Start” while we were working on the OML album. Rob did brushes and crashes on it back then.… https://t.co/YK8UkU1ZLw" ., January 29, 2018
- ↑ Mike Shinoda Featured in Kerrang! Magazine: Interview About Chester, Grief, New Music and Art | LP Association Forums, March 21, 2018
- ↑ Monday! What should we do or make today? Come say hi. - YouTube, April 20, 2020
- ↑ About — corey sandelius
- ↑ Corey Sandelius on Instagram, July 23, 2017
- ↑ Mike Shinoda on Twitter: "My friend said the videos are “cinema verite.” Shot in a way that doesn’t obscure the fact that they’re real life. The music is that way too. The car horn was audible on the mic when I was trying to record, which was super annoying. #PostTraumatic… https://t.co/fTsDurQOqk" ., January 25, 2018
- ↑ Mike Shinoda on Twitter: "(1/2) On this project, I’m trying to work “in the moment.” I record a vocal or shoot a video while I’m feeling something. For example, I wrote and recorded verse one of “over again” on the day of the Bowl show, and did verse two the day after. #PostTraumatic" ., January 25, 2018
- ↑ Mike Shinoda on Twitter: "Grief is so personal, and I thought that a D.I.Y., autobiographical format made the most sense. So I shot & edited everything in the videos myself. I‘m planning to continue doing it this way until it doesn’t feel right anymore, or until the work becomes too much. #PostTraumatic… https://t.co/6o8xU8KTZL" ., January 25, 2018
- ↑ Interview: What Does ‘Post Traumatic’ Mean to Mike Shinoda?, November 2018
- ↑ https://loudwire.com/interview-post-traumatic-mike-shinoda/ Interview: What Does ‘Post Traumatic’ Mean to Mike Shinoda?