With You

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"With You"
Studio-Hybrid Theory Cover.jpg
Song by Linkin Park from the album Hybrid Theory
Working title Dust Brothers / Now I See
Recorded 2000
Length 03:23
Stems Open Labs SoundSlate Pro
Time signature 4/4
Tempo 100
Key E Minor
Live debut Unknown
Last played November 23, 2014
Writer Brad Delson, Chester Bennington, Joe Hahn, John Robert King, Mike Shinoda, Michael Simpson, Rob Bourdon
Producer Don Gilmore
Label Warner Bros.

Hybrid Theory track listing
  1. Papercut
  2. One Step Closer
  3. With You
  4. Points Of Authority
  5. Crawling
  6. Runaway
  7. By Myself
  8. In The End
  9. A Place For My Head
  10. Forgotten
  11. Cure For The Itch
  12. Pushing Me Away

"With You" is the third track on the album Hybrid Theory. This song was a collaboration with the Dust Brothers, who provided additional beats and sounds for the track. It was one of the first songs released from the record through the band's website.

Background

In Jeff Blue's book "One Step Closer: From Xero to #1: Becoming Linkin Park", he explained how "With You", originally titled "Dust Brothers" came about. Jeff Blue was roomates with the father of Mike Simpson of Dust Brothers. He sent him Xero demos hoping the Dust Brothers would produce something for the band, but they passed. In September or October 1999, Jeff called the Dust Brothers again to see if they were interested in producing Hybrid Theory (band). Mike Simpson heard the new demo and told Jeff, "I'm blown away. The sound and singer have definitely improved. You all should come over to the studio in Silver Lake." After meeting, he said, "Just Brad and Mike came. We were hoping to meet your new singer. We played them a lot of tracks. Basic stuff. Like thirty-second loops. They picked out one they liked, so I gave it to them to work on for our album. It was funny, I think my partner was trying to impress your rapper with the new digital mixing board he just got." After meeting with Chester the next week, Simpson said, "Chester's cool. I'm in to have the guys do a song for our album." Mike then came in with his version of the track which has him rapping, but it didn't have Chester on the song. Simpson liked the track, so Jeff had Mike and Chester work out a full demo, which Jeff ended up liking so much that he started putting it on demo CDs immediately, and then got permission to include the song on Hybrid Theory, promising that the band would do another track later on for a Dust Brothers album.[1]

Around the same period "With You" was conceived, the band worked on a second song with the Dust Brothers. This song was revisited in 2001 for inclusion on the producers' debut album, which remains unreleased. On May 14th, 2020, Mike talked about this second song on his stream, saying, "We didn't really... we started something and then we sent it to them. And then they got really nasty about it, to be honest, back in the day. And then they were not cool about it. So we had a bit of a falling out. But they did work on "With You" and that was cool. They did a great job on that."[2]

During a Yahoo chat with fans at hob.com, Mike Shinoda explained how "With You" came together: "We met the Dust Brothers when we were looking for somebody to produce the album, and we decided after meeting that we'd try a song together. They gave us a track with drum loops and different Moog and synth sounds, and we ended up mostly centering in on those Moog and synth sounds, coupling them with guitar and live drum."[3][4]

When the band met Don Gilmore, the producer said "Points Of Authority" and "With You" were the only Linkin Park songs he liked.[5] The band felt comfortable enough with those two tracks to make them available for download at their website in early 2000.

Composition

Due to Phoenix being out of the band at this time (1999 to October 2000) to tour with The Snax, he did not record bass on any songs on the Hybrid Theory EP or Hybrid Theory. Brad Delson recorded the bass on "With You", "Points Of Authority", "Crawling", "Runaway", "By Myself", "In The End", and "Pushing Me Away".

Demos

The first demo for "With You" is titled "Dust Brothers" and is featured on the Hybrid Theory 6-Track Demo CD from April 25, 2000.

There is a different vocal take by at least Mike on the demo while Chester's vocals sound similar to the final take. Joe's scratching is not present on the intro or the bridge. The entire ending of the song after the bridge is different, with Chester singing "I can't wait to see tomorrow" over the repeating "with you" lines.

After April 2000, there is a second demo, after the name change to "With You". It features a variety of different things in this version, which was released on the Ozzfest 2000 sampler, on hybridtheory.com for free download, and on the Hybrid Theory (Unmastered Studio Finals 5/7/00) CD. Some of the differences include a completely different mix, a guitar harmonic at the end of each verse being different, and different echoes on Mike's vocals.

Remix

Linkin Park released a remix of "With You" on Reanimation in July 2002 titled "Wth>You". The track was remixed by Joe Hahn and features guitar by Mike Shinoda. There is a guest verse on the song by Aceyalone.

After Reanimation was released, Linkin Park for years would perform a version of "With You" live that contained the strings from the "Wth>You" remix in the verses.

Versions

Note: Only the date of the very first release of each version is listed.

Studio

Title Album Length Recorded Released Notes
With You Hybrid Theory 3:23 2000 October 24, 2000
Dust Brothers Hybrid Theory 6-Track Demo 3:42 2000
  • The CD dates from April 25, 2000.
  • Lacks Joe's scratches in the intro and bridge.
  • Slightly different vocal take.
  • Different outro.
  • Released on LPAssociation for free download on September 15, 2012.
Now I See The Wicked World Of Warner Bros./Reprise: Ozzfest Sampler 2000

Studio Finals 5/7/00

3:29 2000
  • One of the guitar harmonics at the end of each verse is different.
  • The whole song is mixed differently, most notably on the scratching effects during the intro.
  • The synth-y parts during the verses are louder.
  • Some of the echoing effects on Mike's vocals are different.
  • The Ozzfest sampler was released between June 20, 2000 (Deftones' White Pony release date) and July 11, 2000 (Snake River Conspiracy's Sonic Jihad release date).
  • Released for free download on Hybrid Theory's official website under the name "With You".
  • The WebArchive snapshot which shows this demo dates from June 8, 2000.
  • The "Studio Finals" CD dates from May 7, 2000.
With You Hybrid Theory - Instrumentals 3:27 2000
  • Official instrumental version.

Remix

Title Album Length Recorded Released Notes
Wth>You Reanimation 4:12 2001 July 30, 2002
  • Remix by Joe Hahn (credited as Chairman Hahn).
  • Features vocals by Aceyalone.

Live

Title Album Length Recorded Released Notes
With You Crawling (DVD) 0:30 February 01, 2001 2001
With You Ozzfest 2001: The Second Millennium 3:31 August 14, 2001
  • The back of the CD says all the songs were "recorded live at Alphine Valley Music Theatre, Milwaukee, Wis. June 9, 2001 and at Deer Creek Amp. in East Troy, Wis. June 11, 2001". However, there's a audience recording of the June 9 show which doesn't sound like the recording on the CD, and Linkin Park didn't play on June 11. It's possible that the song was recorded on June 12 since there was a "Deer Creek Amphitheatre" in Noblesville, but it's not confirmed.
With You (Live) LP Underground 2.0

Hybrid Theory (20th Anniversary Edition)

3:22 September 16, 2001 November 18, 2002
With You LP Underground 3.0 3:20 August 02, 2003

August 03, 2003

November 17, 2003
  • Contains elements of "Wth>You".
  • Live From Summer Sanitarium.
With You Live In Texas 3:19 August 02, 2003

August 03, 2003

November 18, 2003
  • Contains elements of "Wth>You".
  • DVD only.
  • Recorded live August 2nd 2003 at Reliant Stadium in Houston, TX and August 3rd 2003 at Texas Stadium in Irving, TX on the Summer Sanitarium Tour.
With You Live At Admiralspalast Berlin, Germany 3:36 June 05, 2012 March 29, 2013
With You (Live In LA 9.8.12) The Hunting Party (Xbox Music) 3:42 September 08, 2012 June 21, 2014
With You (Live At Download Festival 2014) Hybrid Theory - Live At Download Festival 2014 3:33 June 14, 2014 August 12, 2014
With You Hybrid Theory (20th Anniversary Edition) 3:22 January 30, 2001 October 9, 2020
  • DVD only.
  • The Fillmore 2001.
With You Hybrid Theory (20th Anniversary Edition) 3:17 June 03, 2001 October 9, 2020
  • DVD only.
  • Rock Am Ring 2001.
With You Hybrid Theory (20th Anniversary Edition) 3:18 February 23, 2002

February 24, 2002

October 9, 2020
  • DVD only.
  • Projekt: Revolution 2002.

Live

"With You" was a staple in Linkin Park setlists throughout the Hybrid Theory touring cycle. The song is well known, especially for its early performances, for Chester screaming "Come on!" as the heavy part of the intro kicked in. In 2000, the song was often performed as a mid-set song, almost always preceding "Runaway", a pairing of songs that would survive throughout the years. The song slowly crept its way up to the setlists as the year progressed, finally settling in a position third-to-last in the set, before "One Step Closer" and "Runaway". As 2001 rolled around, "With You" remained in its late-set position in the beginning of the year, with an added extended scratch intro by Joe added to the song. On the band's first tour of the year, the Street Soldiers Tour, "With You" opened the show for the first time, with a brand new show-opener intro to assist it. This intro would be used for a good half of 2001. The song remained as the main show opener for a majority of 2001, where it finally traded places with "A Place For My Head" starting at their night performance at Rock im Park, where "With You" returned to its late-set position. The band experimented with songs to open their shows on the Ozzfest, where they eventually settled on "With You" being the show opener once again. This time, the band used a variety of new show intros, with some being used throughout the rest of 2001. On the Ozzfest, the band briefly used an intro featuring a remix of "My December", before using an intro featuring Guns N' Roses' "Welcome To The Jungle" for a majority of the tour. At the show in Tinley Park, Illinois, an ambient intro (the "SHORT Interlude") that would usually precede "Crawling" was performed before "With You" for the first (and only) time. At the show in East Troy, Wisconsin, "With You" was preceded by the "LEE Interlude" which would usually come before "Papercut" for the only time. The following tour, the Hybrid Theory European Tour, featured "With You" as the opener for the entire tour. The tour began with the pre-song "Welcome To The Jungle" intro, but saw many several intros experimented with. At the show at BBC Radio One's Lamacq Live, "With You" featured an intro that was simple Joe scratching, similar to what he did at the very beginning of the year. The next show in Manchester, England featured another scratch intro, but a bongo sample was used over it. This is the only time that intro has been used. The rest of the tour utilized the "Docklands Intro", named after the venue it debuted at in London, England. The band used this intro for the rest of 2001. As 2002 rolled around, "With You" continued to open shows, where the studio version was performed instead of a show opener being used.

"With You" returned on the Meteora touring cycle, assuming a position late in the main set (third-to-last). In 2003, the "With You" and "Runaway" duo was broken up, but both songs were still performed. The verses of the song featured the instrumental of its Reanimation counterpart, "Wth>You". The song continued to be performed late in the main set, moving down to the middle of the setlist on Projekt Revolution 2003. "With You" returned as the opener of the setlists in late 2003, for the U.S. Holiday Radio Shows. It did not have a show intro, but was still performed Reanimation-style. Starting at these shows, the "With You" and "Runaway" duo was revived, with "Runaway" transitioning directly from the outro of "With You". It continued to open shows in the beginning of 2004, where a show intro, entitled the "Meteora Tour Intro" was played before the song. On the Meteora International Tour, "With You" was replaced by "Don't Stay" with a its new "Gacela Intro" as the opener of the shows. "With You" also received a new intro, which was just a short extended intro featuring "Wth>You". The song was not performed in 2005, but returned for the Summer Sonic Tour in 2006, where it featured a short version of the "Meteora Tour Intro".

"With You" was not performed for the entirety of the Minutes To Midnight and A Thousand Suns touring cycles. However, it returned during the Living Things touring cycle, where it featured a brand new extended scratch intro and a new scratch outro. "Runaway" also returned as its partner, also being performed for the first time in years (since 2007!). "Runaway" was dropped on the Honda Civic Tour, but "With You" stayed strong. It remained in all three sets, and even opened Set C with a brand new show opener intro featuring the main theme from "Game Of Thrones". The song remained to be consistently performed throughout all of the Living Things World Tour in 2012 and 2013.

The song returned again on The Hunting Party World Tour, though less frequently now. The song returned on the European Festival Tour with the its partner, "Runaway", but both songs were shortened. In "With You"'s scenario, it lacked the first chorus and second verse. "With You" did not make it into both sets on the Carnivores Tour (in full), while "Runaway" served its transitional part into "Wastelands" throughout the entire world tour. "With You" rotated spots in Set B with "Points Of Authority", while the song's first verse was featured in the extended intro of "Until It's Gone". The song was completely dropped in 2015.

Variations

Last Updated: September 23, 2015

Type Description First Played Last Played
Intro Scratch Intro January 10, 2001 September 14, 2001
Intro 2001 Intro January 26, 2001 June 3, 2001
Intro Ambient Intro (SHORT Interlude) June 8, 2001 June 8, 2001
Intro Lee Interlude June 9, 2001 June 9, 2001
Intro "My December" Remix June 21, 2001 June 25, 2001
Intro Guns N' Roses' "Welcome To The Jungle" Remix June 29, 2001 Septmeber 12, 2001
Intro Bongo + Scratch Intro September 15, 2001 Septmeber 15, 2001
Intro Docklands Intro September 16, 2001 March 2, 2002
Intro Meteora Tour Intro January 16, 2004 March 15, 2004
Intro Short Reanimated Intro June 3, 2004 September 11, 2004
Intro Short Meteora Tour Intro August 10, 2006 August 15, 2006
Intro 2012 Ext. Intro May 18, 2012 January 10, 2014
Intro Game Of Thrones Intro + 2012 Ext. Intro August 11, 2012 October 10, 2012
Intro Shortened Intro August 12, 2014 November 23, 2014
Outro Ext. Scratch Outro May 18, 2012 January 10, 2014
Alternative Shortened (No 1st Chorus or 2nd Verse) May 24, 2014 June 12, 2014

Live Guests

Last Updated: September 27, 2015

  • Benjamin Chandler (replacing Brad Delson)

Personnel

Linkin Park

  • Chester Bennington: vocals
  • Rob Bourdon: drums, backing vocals
  • Brad Delson: guitars, bass, backing vocals
  • Joseph Hahn: records, sampling, backing vocals
  • Mike Shinoda: emcee, vocals, beats, sampling

Additional Musicians

  • Dust Brothers: additional beats

Production

  • Don Gilmore: producer
  • Jeff Blue: executive producer
  • Andy Wallace: mixer

Lyrics

Gallery

In Other Media

  • "With You" is featured in the 8th episode of Season 2 of the TV series Roswell, titled "Meet The Dupes".

External Links

References