Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Part 2

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"Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Part 2"
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Song by Handsome Boy Modeling School from the album White People
Recorded 2004
Released November 9, 2004
Format Digital, CD, Vinyl
Length 7:16
Samples Antonio Vivaldi - Concerto No. 1 in E Major, Op. 8, RV 269, "La Primavera" (Spring)
Luigi Boccherini - String Quintet in E Major, Op. 11, No. 5
Fatboy Slim - The Rockafeller Skank
Writer Chester Bennington, Dan Nakamura, Mike Shinoda, Robert Hall
Producer Handsome Boy Modeling School
Label Elektra Records

White People track listing
  1. Intro (feat. Father Guido Sarducci)
  2. If It Wasn't for You (feat. De La Soul & Starchild Excalibur)
  3. Are You Down With It (feat. Mike Patton)
  4. The World's Gone Mad (feat. Barrington Levy, Del the Funky Homosapien & Alex Kapranos)
  5. Dating Game (feat. Hines Buchanan, Neelam & Tim Meadows)
  6. Breakdown (feat. Jack Johnson)
  7. It's Like That (feat. Casual) / I Am Complete (feat. Tim Meadows)
  8. I've Been Thinking (feat. Cat Power)
  9. Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Part 2 (feat. Lord Finesse, Mike Shinoda, Chester Bennington, Rahzel, Qbert, Grand Wizard Theodore & Jazzy Jay) / Knockers (featuring Tim Meadows)
  10. The Hours (feat. Chino Moreno, El-P and Cage)
  11. Class System (feat. Julee Cruise & Pharrell)
  12. First... And Then (feat. Dres)
  13. A Day In The Life (feat. The Mars Volta, RZA, A.G.) / Good Hygiene (feat. Tim Meadows)
  14. Greatest Mistake (feat. Jamie Cullum & John Oates)
  15. Dating Game (Part 2)" (feat. Hines Buchanan, Neelam & Tim Meadows)
  16. Outro (feat. Father Guido Sarducci)

"Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Part 2" is the ninth on the album White People by Handsome Boy Modeling School.


On June 17, 2004, Rob Bourdon gave a interview to XFM, saying:

"We're planning on doing some writing soon, but we find we can write and demo stuff on the bus or wherever. Once you get started on a track and have ideas you need to preserve the spontaneity of them.

As for collaborations, I'd love to do some stuff with a number of people. I've recently been working with [Gorillaz and Deltron 3030 member] Dan The Automator, and [Automator side project] Handsome Boy Modelling School have offered us the chance to do some stuff with them. I can't say exactly what I've contributed - you'll have to wait and see."[1]

Handsome Boy Modeling School was a collaborative project between renowned hip hop producers Daniel Nakamura (aka Dan The Automator) and Paul Huston (aka Prince Paul), with whom Linkin Park collaborated on a unreleased remix for Reanimation. On the project, Dan and Paul assume the characters of Nathaniel Merriweather and Chest Rockwell, respectively.[2]

About the nature of the project, Nakamura says, "I think music in general is pretty humorless. People can sing about being in love, being in lust, happy, sad, angry -- so why isn't it OK to sing about being silly? The thing about Handsome Boy is that it's not just about being funny, but it's a commentary on hip-hop, on people taking on drug dealer names. Hey, we own a modeling school. To me, it's a cultural satire of sorts."[3]

White People, their second studio album, came out on November 9, 2004 via Atlantic Records, after a five-year hiatus.[4]

An article published by The Guardian reads "It was something of a logistical headache. Before they could even start work, label closures shunted them from Tommy Boy to Elektra to Atlantic. Then there were geographical challenges. Based on different coasts - Nakamura lives in San Francisco, Huston in suburban Long Island - they crisscrossed America to exploit windows in their collaborators' schedules."[5]

White People included a sequel to the hit "Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This)" from 1999's So…How's Your Girl?, featuring Linkin Park's Mike Shinoda and Chester Bennington, Lord Finesse, Qbert, Jazzy Jay and Grand Wizard Theodore.

Prince Paul, in his character, Chest Rockwell, said, "The hard part is choosing who to use for which song. But making that choice is kind of like, 'Well, do we take the Rolls Royce or the Bentley today.' The only question we asked ourselves in the studio was, 'Would I want to get dressed to this song?' 'Would I want to make love to this song?' And if it's good, it's like making love with mirrors on the ceiling. You can't beat it."[6]

About the track with Linkin Park, Nakamura said, "We've been fortunate enough to work with both the people who originated a lot of stuff in hip-hop and some of the guys who have perfected it. So we put them with the people who have done the best job of co-opting hip-hop to make the biggest impact in electronica and rock. Hip-hop is the biggest influence in pop culture. We put that all together in one song and it tells a big story."[7]

Asked about the song on Twitch, Mike answered, "That's so random. That's a song by Handsome Boy Modeling School. I believe we wrote specifically for that song. Dan had a concept for like a song. Is that the one where he had the concept with like Four Seasons? A song in four like movements. It might have been."[8] Mike's rap verse in the song incorporates parts of Vivaldi's "Four Seasons" just like the majority of the rest of the track does. Chester's section, on which Mike plays guitar and does the "breathe, breathe" backing vocals, is the only part of the song that doesn't use anything from "Four Seasons".


Note: Only the date of the very first release of each version is listed.

Title Album Length Recorded Released Notes
Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Part 2 / Knockers White People 7:16 2004 November 9, 2004
  • Features vocals by Lord Finesse, Mike Shinoda and Chester Bennington, beatbox by Rahzel, scratches by Qbert, speeches by Grand Wizard Theodore and Jazzy Jay, violin by Dan Nakamura, and guitar, piano and bass by Mike Shinoda.
  • Samples Antonio Vivaldi's "Concerto No. 1 in E Major, Op. 8, RV 269, "La Primavera" (Spring)", Luigi Boccherini's "String Quintet in E Major, Op. 11, No. 5" and Fatboy Slim's "The Rockafeller Skank".
  • "Knockers" is a skit and features speech by Tim Meadows.
Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Part 2 / Knockers White People (Clean) 7:16 2004 November 9, 2004
  • Censored.
Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Part 2 The Fall Collection For The Discerning Listener

White People Album Sampler

6:24 2004
  • Without "Knockers".
Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Part 2 Atlantic Records Fall 2004 3:54 2004
  • Shortened.
Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Part 2 White People (Instrumental) 6:26 September 1, 2004 (or November 9, 2004?)
  • Official instrumental version.


  • Rahzel - human beatbox
  • Lord Finesse - vocals
  • Mike Shinoda - vocals, guitar (distorted), piano (live), bass, writer
  • QBert - scratches
  • Grand Wizard Theodore - speech
  • Jazzy Jay - speech
  • Chester Bennington - vocals, writer
  • Dan Nakamura - violin, writer


  • Robert Hall - writer
  • Ed Scratch - engineer
  • Prince Paul - engineer, producer, mixing
  • Jamie Durr - engineer (assistant)
  • Howie Weinberg - masterization
  • Dan The Automator - engineer, producer, mixing



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