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*Alternative recording of the song, still with Mark Wakefield on vocals.
*Alternative recording of the song, still with Mark Wakefield on vocals.

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"Forgotten" is the tenth song on the album Hybrid Theory. It is a quick paced track, revolving around Mike Shinoda's verses. This song was originally known as "Rhinestone" during the band's days as Xero.

Background

"Rhinestone" was an early version of "Forgotten" created by Brad Delson, Joe Hahn, Mike Shinoda, and Mark Wakefield when Linkin Park was still called "Xero" and had Mark on vocals. The demo was re-recorded at some point when Mark was still in the band and used on the soundtrack of the 20th episode of the Canadian TV show "The Crow: Stairway to Heaven", entitled "Brother's Keeper", which aired on May 7, 1999.[1][2] A soundtrack CD for the series exists but "Rhinestone" wasn't included in it. A version of "Rhinestone" was, however, included in the audition tape the band sent to Chester.[3]

Another version of "Rhinestone", with Chester Bennington on vocals and different lyrics, exists from the Hybrid Theory sessions. Although this version is labeled "Rhinestone" on the internal Warner Brothers Records demo CD, this same demo was released on the LP Underground 12 CD as "Forgotten (Demo)". On the booklet, Brad wrote: "One of our earliest songs. Definitely a fan favorite. The spirit of this song is intimately interwoven into the formative identity of the band."

On October 7, 2002, Mike wrote on Linkin Park's official website: "[...]sometimes, some of us never get past the working title. originally, forgotten was called "rhinestone," and no matter how much i ask him not to, brad still calls that song by its old name. haha"[4]

Verses of the demo were re-used on "Frgt/10".[5]

There were a few mistakes on the lyrics printed on the Hybrid Theory booklet. For "Forgotten", the lyrics reads "Then with the eyes tightly shut" instead of "Then with the eyes shut".

Versions

Note: Only the date of the very first release of each version is listed.

Studio

Title Album Length Recorded Released Notes
Forgotten Hybrid Theory 3:14 2000 October 24, 2000
Rhinestone Xero 3:36 1996 1997
  • Demo version with Mark Wakefield on vocals.
Rhinestone
  • Alternative recording of the song, still with Mark Wakefield on vocals.
  • Played during the 20th episode of the Canadian TV show The Crow: Stairway to Heaven, entitled Brother's Keeper, which aired on May 7, 1999.
  • A soundtrack album was made for the show but "Rhinestone" isn't in it.
  • Although this version was never released, it is worth noting it exists.
Rhinestone Demos

LP Underground 12

3:41 1999 November 16, 2012
  • The Demos CD dates from January 7, 2000.
  • Chester Bennington on vocals.
  • Different lyrics.
  • Different instrumental.
  • Listed as "Forgotten (Demo)" on the LPU CD.
  • Released on LPFuse for free download on Christmas 2004.
Forgotten Studio Finals 5/7/00 3:19 2000
  • The CD dates from July 5, 2000.
  • Released on LPLive for free download on April 9, 2011.
Forgotten Hybrid Theory - Instrumentals 3:16 2000
  • Official instrumental version.

Remix

Title Album Length Recorded Released Notes
Frgt/10 Reanimation

Enth E Nd / Frgt/10

3:32 2001 July 30, 2002
  • Remix by The Alchemist.
  • Features vocals by Chali 2na of Jurassic 5.
  • "Rhinestone" lyrics were re-used for this remix.
4 GT 10 (Featuring Chali 2NA) Fish Market 3:28 2004 November 9, 2004
  • Includes transition to Rasco's "The Sweet Science" at the end.
Frgt/10 "Reanimation" Internal Demo 3:45 2001
  • The CD dates from late January or February 2002.
  • No Chali 2na.
  • Original "Forgotten" lyrics.
  • After the second chorus, the structure of the song varies from the version on Reanimation.
  • Short bridge with brief piano part.
  • Slight differences with the ending.
  • Released on LPLive for free download on June 20, 2012.
Frgt/10 Reanimation - Instrumentals 3:32 2001
  • Official instrumental version.
  • Has sound effects in the verses that aren't present in the officially released instrumental.
Frgt/10 (Instrumental) Enth E Nd / Frgt/10 3:31 2001 2002
  • Official instrumental version.

Live

Title Album Length Recorded Released Notes
Forgotten (Live At Download Festival 2014) Hybrid Theory - Live At Download Festival 2014 3:26 June 14, 2014 August 12, 2014

Live

Rhinestone

Hybrid Theory can be seen rehearsing the song in the HiFi Hollywood Rehearsal Studios with bassist Scott Koziol during the episode "DJ Joe of Linkin Park" of Marc Ostrick's webseries Lockout, recorded on February 24, 2000.

Forgotten

"Forgotten" was a staple in the setlists on the Hybrid Theory touring cycle. The song was almost always played with an extended intro, entitled the "2000 Beat Intro", near the beginning of the set in 2000. When the song was performed in the very beginning of 2001, it continued to be performed towards the beginning of the set, now with an extended bridge added to it. On the band's first tour of the year, the Street Soldiers Tour, the song was finally moved up into the set, becoming the second-to-last song in the setlist before "One Step Closer". When the band began utilizing an encore break in the middle of the US-to-Europe Tour (the first confirmed show of this happening is in West Melbourne, Victoria, "Forgotten" was the song that opened up the encore. At the band's first show at Rock im Park, "Forgotten" had both an extended guitar intro in addition to the 2000 Beat Intro, the first time the intro had been extended further. This extension was consistent until the end of the Ozzfest. When the band performed at the KROQ Weenie Roast, the extended bridge was taken a bit further when Brad began to play the main riff of Guns N' Roses' "Sweet Child O' Mind" during it. On the Hybrid Theory European Tour, "Forgotten" was moved down into the main set rather than the encore, when it was the second-to-last in the set, before "Crawling". The song was dropped after this tour. The song returned once more in 2002, where it was again performed as the second-to-last song in the set. On the single 2002 tour, it was performed with a new guitar intro.

"Forgotten" did not appear in a Linkin Park setlist for over a decade after the Hybrid Theory touring cycle. It was rehearsed for the Meteora touring cycle, but did not end up being performed in that cycle. It did not appear again until The Hunting Party touring cycle, where the band performed it at the Download Festival, where the band performed Hybrid Theory in its entirety. At the show in Stuttgart, Germany on The Hunting Party European Tour, Mike was going to rap the first verse of "Forgotten" over the extended intro of "Until It's Gone", by request of an LPU member at the meet and greet, but couldn't figure out how to do it on the spot and ended up making the extended intro an instrumental.

Variations

Last Updated: September 27, 2015

Type Description First Played Last Played
Intro 2000 Beat Intro July 24, 2000* May 15, 2001
Intro Guitar + 2000 Beat Intro June 1, 2001 October 23, 2001
Intro 2002 Guitar Intro January 29, 2002 February 24, 2002
Bridge Samples and bridge lyrics repeated January 10, 2001 December 3, 2001
Bridge w/ Guns N' Roses' "Sweet Child O' Mine" June 23, 2001 June 23, 2001

Dates marked with an asterisk (*) indicates first known appearance of the variation. The date may not be the exact debut or final performance of the variation.

Personnel

Linkin Park

  • Chester Bennington: vocals
  • Rob Bourdon: drums, backing vocals
  • Brad Delson: guitars, bass, backing vocals
  • Joseph Hahn: records, sampling, backing vocals
  • Mike Shinoda: emcee, vocals, beats, sampling

Additional Musicians

  • Ian Hornbeck: bass

Additional Writers

  • Mark Wakefield: writer

Production

  • Don Gilmore: producer
  • Jeff Blue: executive producer
  • Andy Wallace: mixer

Lyrics

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From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture is there
The memory won't escape me
But why should I care?
From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture is there
The memory won't escape me
But why should I care?
 
There's a place so dark you can't see the end
Skies cock back and shock that which can't defend
The rain then sends dripping / an acidic question
Forcefully, the power of suggestion
Then with the eyes shut / looking thought the rust and rot
And dust / a small spot of light floods the floor
And pours over the rusted world of pretend
The eyes ease open and its dark again
 
From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture is there
The memory won't escape me
But why should I care?
 
In the memory you'll find me
Eyes burning up
The darkness holding me tightly
Until the sun rises up
 
Moving all around / screaming of the ups and downs
Pollution manifested in perpetual sound
The wheels go round and the sunset creeps behind
Street lamps, chain-link and concrete
A little piece of paper with a picture drawn
Floats on down the street till the wind is gone
The memory now is like the picture was then
When the paper's crumpled up it can't be perfect again
 
From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture is there
The memory won't escape me
But why should I care?
From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture is there
The memory won't escape me
But why should I care
 
In the memory you'll find me
Eyes burning up
The darkness holding me tightly
Until the sun rises up
 
Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I'm telling you that
I see it right through you
 
Now you got me caught in the act
YOU BRING THE THOUGHT BACK
I'm telling you that
I SEE IT RIGHT THROUGH YOU [x2]
 
Now you got me caught in the act (Oh, oh)
YOU BRING THE THOUGHT BACK (Oh, oh)
I'm telling you that (Oh, oh)
I SEE IT RIGHT THROUGH YOU (Oh, oh) [x4]
 
In the memory you'll find me
Eyes burning up
The darkness holding me tightly
Until the sun rises up [x2]

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From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top, I stop
At the core of the rotten
Stopping just what I thought
But the sun has escaped us
So, I'm fighting the sky
And I'm far from my weightless
Thinking "why did I try?"
From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top, I stop
At the core of the rotten
Stopping just what I thought
But the sun has escaped us
So, I'm fighting the sky
And I'm far from my weightless
Thinking "why did I try?"


From the thread to the needle, middle-to-end
When skies cock back and shock that which couldn't defend
The rain then sends dripping an acidic question
Forcefully, the power of suggestion
Then, with the eyes tightly shut, looking through the rust
And rot and dust, a spot of light floods the floor
And pours itself upon the world of pretend
Then the eyes ease open and it's dark again

From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top, I stop
At the core of the rotten
Stopping just what I thought
But the sun has escaped us
So, I'm fighting the sky
And I'm far from my weightless
Thinking "why did I try?"
From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top, I stop
At the core of the rotten
Stopping just what I thought
But the sun has escaped us
So, I'm fighting the sky
And I'm far from my weightless
Thinking "why did I try?"

In a minute, you'll find me
Eyes burn me up
You say you'll never forget me
But the lies have piled up

Moving all around, screaming of the ups and downs
Pollution manifested in perpetual sound
And as the wheels go 'round, the sunset creeps
Past the street lamps, cars, chainlinks and concrete
A window then grows and captures the eye
And cries out yellow light as it passes it by
A small black figure sits in front of a box
Inside a box of rock with the needles on top
Nothing stops in this land of the chain
When brains lose, not knowing they were part of the game
And then insides grow but the box stays the same
A shame - shovel up the pieces of the pain
You could try to hide yourself in the world of pretend
But when the paper's crumpled up, it can't be perfect again

From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top, I stop
At the core of the rotten
Stopping just what I thought
But the sun has escaped us
So, I'm fighting the sky
And I'm far from my weightless
Thinking "why did I try?"
From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top, I stop
At the core of the rotten
Stopping just what I thought
But the sun has escaped us
So, I'm fighting the sky
And I'm far from my weightless
Thinking "why did I try?"
 
In a minute, you'll find me
Eyes burn me up
You say you'll never forget me
But the lies have piled up

Yeah, I got you caught in the act
You better step back
Telling me that I'm seeing right through you
Yeah, I got you caught in the act
You better step back
Telling me that I'm seeing right through you
Yeah, I got you caught in the act
You better step back
Telling me that I'm seeing right through you
Yeah, I got you caught in the act
You better step back
Telling me that I'm seeing right through you
Yeah, I got you caught in the act
You better step back
Telling me that I'm seeing right through you
Yeah, I got you caught in the act
You better step back
Telling me that I'm seeing right through you
Yeah, I got you caught in the act
You better step back
Telling me that I'm seeing right through you
Yeah, I got you caught in the act
You better step back
Telling me that I'm seeing right through you

In a minute, you'll find me
Eyes burn me up
You say you'll never forget me
But the lies have piled up
In a minute, you'll find me
Eyes burn me up
You say you'll never forget me
But the lies have piled up

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From the top to the bottom
(Bottom to top I stop)
At the core I've forgotten
(In the middle of my thoughts)
Taken far from my safety
(Saw a light in the sky)
The sun will escape me
(So why did I try?)
From the top to the bottom
(Bottom to top I stop)
At the core I've forgotten
(In the middle of my thoughts)
Taken far from my safety
(Saw a light in the sky)
The sun will escape me
(So why do I try?)

From the thread to the needle, middle to end
When skies cock back and shock that which couldn't defend
The rain then sends dripping an acidic questions
Forcefully, the power of suggestion
Then with the eyes tightly shut
looking through the rust and rot and dust
A spot of light floods the floor
And pours itself upon the world of pretend
And the eyes ease open and its dark again

From the top to the bottom
(Bottom to top I stop)
At the core I've forgotten
(In the middle of my thoughts)
Taken far from my safety
(Saw a light in the sky)
The sun will escape me
(So why did I try?)
From the top to the bottom
(Bottom to top I stop)
At the core I've forgotten
(In the middle of my thoughts)
Taken far from my safety
(Saw a light in the sky)
The sun will escape me
(So why do I try?)

In a minute you'll find me
Eyes burn me up
You say you'll never forgive me
But the lies have piled up

Moving all around
Screaming of the ups and downs
Pollution manifested in perpetual sound
And as the wheels go round and the sunset creeps past the
street lamps, cars, chain-link and concrete
A window then grows and catches the eye
Cries out a yellow light as it passes it by
A small black figure sits in front of a box
Inside a box of rock with the needles on top
Nothing stops in this land of the pain
The sane lose not knowing they were part of the game
And then the insides change
The box stays the same
The shame, shovel up the pieces of the pain
You can try to hide yourself in this world of pretend
But when the paper's crumpled up it can't be perfect again
 
From the top to the bottom
(Bottom to top I stop)
At the core I've forgotten
(In the middle of my thoughts)
Taken far from my safety
(Saw a light in the sky)
The sun will escape me
(So why do I try?)
From the top to the bottom
(Bottom to top I stop)
At the core I've forgotten
(In the middle of my thoughts)
Taken far from my safety
(Saw a light in the sky)
The sun will escape me
(So why do I try?)
In a minute you'll find me
Eyes burn me up
You say you'll never forgive me
But the lies have piled up

Now I got you caught in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you
Now I got you caught in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you
Now I got you caught in the act
You better step back (BACK)
I'm telling you that I see it right through you (THROUGH YOU)
Now I got you caught in the act
You better step back (BACK)
I'm telling you that I see it right through you (THROUGH YOU)

(Are you afraid of you)
Now I got you got in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you
(Afraid of you)
Now I got you got in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you
(Are you afraid of you)
Now I got you got in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you
(Afraid of you)
Now I got you got in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you

In a minute you'll find me
Eyes burn me up
You say you'll never forgive me
But the lies have piled up
In a minute you'll find me
Eyes burn me up
You say you'll never forgive me
But the lies have piled up

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From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
Storm bright in the sky
The sun will escape me
So why did I try
From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
Storm bright in the sky
The sun will escape me
So why did I try

From the thread to the needle, middle to end
When skies cock back and shock that which couldn't defend
The rain then sends dripping an acidic question
Forcefully, the power of suggestion
Then with the eyes tightly shut, looking thought the rust and rotten dust
A spot of light floods the floor
And pours itself upon a world of pretend
The eyes ease open and its dark again

From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
Storm bright in the sky
The sun will escape me
So why did I try
From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
Storm bright in the sky
The sun will escape me
So why do I try

In a minute you'll find me
Eyes burn me up
You say you'll never forget me
But the lies have piled up

Moving all around
Screaming of the ups and downs
Pollution manifested in perpetual sound
And as the wheels go round the sunset creeps past the street lamps, cars, chain links, and concrete
A window then grows and captures the eye
Prys out yellow light as it passes it by
A small black figure sits in front of a box
Inside a box a rock with the needles on top
Nothing stops in this land of the pain
The sane lose not knowing they were part of the game
And the inside changes and the box stays the same
In shame,you shovel up the pieces to the pain
You could try to hide yourself in this world of pretend
When the paper's crumbled up it can't be perfect again

From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
Storm bright in the sky
The sun will escape me
So why did I try
From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I've forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
Storm bright in the sky
The sun will escape me
So why do I try

In a minute you'll find me
Eyes burn me up
You say you'll never forget me
But the lies have piled up

Now I got you got in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you
Now I got you got in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you
Now I got you got in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you
Now I got you got in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you
(Are you afraid of the truth?)
Now I got you got in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you
(Are you afraid of the truth?)
Now I got you got in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you
(Are you afraid of the truth?)
Now I got you got in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you
(Are you afraid of the truth?)
Now I got you got in the act
You better step back
I'm telling you that I see it right through you

In a minute you'll find me
Eyes burn me up
You say you'll never forget me
But the lies have piled up
(In a minute you'll find me
Eyes burn me up
You say you'll never forget me
But the lies have piled up)

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In Other Media

  • A demo version of "Forgotten" ("Rhinestone") with Mark Wakefield on vocals is featured in the 20th episode of the TV series The Crow: Stairway To Heaven, titled "Brother's Keeper".

External Links

References