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''Demos'' is a watermarked CD of [[Chester Bennington]]/[[Dead By Sunrise]] rough demos once owned by Warner Bros. Records executive Rob Cavallo. The disc was discovered in January 2018 and its content was released by fan sites LPLive and LinkinPark:br on March 20, 2018 (Chester Bennington's 42nd birthday) after being sold by Southland CD, a store specialized in rare and promotional CDs located in Redondo Beach, CA.
''Demos'' is a watermarked CD of [[Chester Bennington]]/[[Dead By Sunrise]] rough demos once owned by Warner Bros. Records executive Rob Cavallo. The disc was discovered in January 2018 and its content was released by fan sites LPLive and LinkinPark:br on March 20, 2018 (Chester Bennington's 42nd birthday).

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This article is about the Chester Bennington demo album named "Demos". For the Hybrid Theory demo album, see Demos (Hybrid Theory 9-Track Demo CD).
Chester Bennington Demos.jpg
Demo album by Chester Bennington
Recorded 2005-2007
Length 34:48
Label Warner Bros. Records
Dead By Sunrise chronology

Demos Out Of Ashes (2009)

Demos is a watermarked CD of Chester Bennington/Dead By Sunrise rough demos once owned by Warner Bros. Records executive Rob Cavallo. The disc was discovered in January 2018 and its content was released by fan sites LPLive and LinkinPark:br on March 20, 2018 (Chester Bennington's 42nd birthday).


Chester Bennington met Ryan Shuck and Amir Derakh when Orgy were working on their second record, Vapor Transmission, at NRG Recording Studios, the same studio Linkin Park was recording Hybrid Theory, and they immediately became best friends. After Linkin Park finished promoting and touring for Meteora, Chester started writing new songs and Ryan would always go to his house and hear them being played by Chester on acoustic guitar, thinking they were really good.[1] Ryan then pushed Chester to convince his bandmates that those weren't Linkin Park songs and Chester started planning a solo album where he would play everything except for drums.[2] Around the same time, Chester was teaching and coaching Ryan to sing in Julien-K[3] and became so excited with what they were creating that he wanted to join the band, but they thought it would be better to work on a new project together instead.[4] The new project was born one day in the studio when Ryan and Amir started playing with the guitar tracks Chester had recorded for "Let Down" and took the song to a place he never imagined he wanted.[5]

Towards the end of 2004, Dr. Henry Nicholas III — Co-Founder and former Co-Chairman, President and CEO of Broadcom Corporation — a billionaire and prominent philanthropist, decided to create a music company called Level 7, having Chester and members of Julien-K as business partners.[6][7] The objective behind the company was to create a new cutting edge, technology oriented business model that would change the way the music industry operates and would give the creative and financial control back to artists as explained by Chester: "I'm working on this company called Level 7 and our goal is to completely change the way the music industry is run. And I can't really--I wish I could tell you more about it, but I can't. My goal, I've accomplished everything I've ever wanted, more than I ever could have dreamed of accomplishing with Linkin Park, you know? And we do things that just blow my mind. But I want to contribute; I want to be known as someone who contributed in a positive way to everybody in the business, that helped to give artists control of their careers back. And put the power back into the hands of the fans and the hands of the artists, rather than in the hands of some fucking dude who doesn't even know how to write a song. I think the people who really make the business possible, the artists and the fans are the ones that are taken for granted the most. And I really want to try and help that, and try to change that, and hopefully with what we're doing with Level 7, we'll be able to accomplish that."[8]

Level 7 had a recording studio in a mansion owned by Nicholas at 9 Telescope in Newport Coast where some of the Dead By Sunrise material was recorded.[9][10] The plan was to release both Chester's solo record and Julien-K's debut album as Level 7's very first releases,[11] however, around 2008 Nicholas was indicted for several fraud and drug charges and his subsequent extensive legal battles had seemingly prevented him from moving the project forward,[12] causing a massive delay on the records seeing the light of day. Dead By Sunrise then seeked Warner Bros. Records to put out the record.

Warner Music Group named Rob Cavallo chief creative officer in early October 2009,[13] when he started working exclusively with WMG as a producer and an A&R executive. He had previously served as president of Level 7 Artists in 2006 and is credited as a co-founder of the company.[14]

Writing and Recording

Chester started working on his solo album in 2005 when Linkin Park took a seven-month break.[15] According to Ryan Shuck, they completed the album, but had to put the project on hold when Linkin Park started working on Minutes To Midnight, delaying the release of Dead By Sunrise's debut album to sometime in 2008.[3] He said some of the material already dated back to five or six years.[1] "When I started writing the music for Dead By Sunrise, I felt like they were stylistically outside (the band's) box," Chester explained.[16] He described the record saying, "We took Nineties rock, mixed it with Eighties pop like Depeche Mode, the Cure and Bauhaus and smashed them together. It's fuckin' driving beats and walls of guitars." Those early songs included "Morning After", "Walking In Circles"[17] and "Let Down", which was performed live at the ReAct Now: Music & Relief show. While "Give Me Your Name" was also written around that time, Chester said it wasn't actually intended for the album as he wrote it for his wedding which took place in December 2005.[18][19]

It was only after Projekt Revolution 2008 that Chester went back to work on his solo record, while simultaneously working with Linkin Park on A Thousand Suns,[20] for a 2009 release. Besides writing new songs, the band also enlisted the help of Howard Benson,[21] who drastically changed its overall sound as explained by Ryan, "On the album, the guitars were definitely heavier – there was a bit more grip to the record before and I think the label, when they heard the songs, were like “this could be all over the radio” and they wanted us to polish it up and make it shimmery." Pre-production was done at Ryan's house, tracking at Bay 7 Studios and vocals at Bay 7 as well as Sunset Sound. Afterwards, the band moved to Sparky Dark Studio (Howard Benson's home studio) to listen and put the finishing touches to the album.[22] As for their writing process, Ryan said, "The songs start with Chester usually on an acoustic guitar as a little vocal melody, but it’s really sparse. Occasionally they’re more complete songs, but a lot of times he has an idea and a really good melody and we just sort of record that and he’ll literally go work with Linkin Park then. And we’ll build the song and write it, do the parts and everything, he’ll come back and he’ll get excited and then he’ll sing more on it and then he’ll go back and work with Linkin Park."[23] Despite doing double duty, Chester said he was involved with every aspect of making the album, from the songwriting to the programming to performing with various instruments.[24] According to him, the name "Dead By Sunrise" was partly inspired by the fact that they did most of their work from 3 o'clock until about 3 or 4 in the morning.[25]

The lyrics were described by Chester as being very poetic and visual. "When I was writing the lyrics for Out of Ashes, I tried to use sentences that were really visual and words that inspired people to see a moving picture in their heads. That way, listeners can really catch the vibe of what the music is about. In doing so, there's a more colorful flare to the lyrics. That also allows people to feel how dark a lot of the record is. I think the darker thing are, the more they make an impact on you. In terms of writing, I definitely went a little more poetic on this album than normal."[24]

Songs that were originally written to deal with Chester's personal feelings about God (such as "Fire" and "Too Late") were changed lyrically because he felt some people get uncomfortable with this subject matter.[26] "Condemned", "Inside Of Me" and the final version of "Fire" were conceived towards the end of those later sessions with Howard Benson, when Chester decided he would write "3 really great rock songs" and did so within 8 hours.[27]


The exact date of the CD is hard to be determined because the band had worked on the songs for many years and the quality of the tracks vary a lot. With the exception of the "Morning After" remix (released on the Underworld Evolution soundtrack), none of the tracks are fully mastered or mixed, and some of them are very loud and brickwalled.

The tracks noticeably lack the changes imposed by the label, with the music being more guitar driven, especially on "Walking In Circles" and "Fadeaway", and a lot of the background vocals from the final versions being absent. "Walking In Circles", with different ending, and "My Suffering", with different lyrics and screamed verses, are the same versions performed live at Club Tattoo's 13th Anniversary in 2008. Twenty Eyes is also the same version performed live, being different from the original Misfits song, with new lyrics and a different structure towards the end. "Fire" was also still in its early form, before Chester decided to start over the song with different melodies and lyrical theme.[28] The bridge from the final version was originally the chorus. Other notable difference in the CD is that the bridge in "Fadeaway" is repeated in place of the fourth verse. "Morning After" is the only demo not to have any lyrical differences.

Around June 2007, a picture posted on Julien-K's official website revealed a songboard with the titles of all the songs contained in this demo, with "In The Darkness" being the only song that made the album not featured in the CD.[29] This, and the absence of songs from the later sessions, could mean the recordings date from 2005 up to sometime before mid-2007 while the CD itself dates to sometime after the Level 7 incident (as it has the Warner Bros. logo). It's also important to note that "Into You" already had its final title on the board, while it is listed as "Fadeaway" on the demo.

In early 2009, Mike Shinoda posted on his blog about Chester playing him 9 songs from Dead By Sunrise,[30] but it's unknown if that was the same CD.

The fact that the CD is credited to Chester Bennington (despite the band already being named at the time) could be explained by the following quote: "We were called Snow White Tan for a while, and then I changed the name to Dead By Sunrise, but I really just like Chester Bennington."[15]


Employees of record companies, radio stations and magazines receive a fair amount of promos for review with a serial number embedded in the music for security purposes. This is done so in the unlikely event that a leak may occur, it can be traced to the recipient of the CD. Besides the personal watermark within the music, they all come with a different recipient name and personal catalog number printed on the disc.[31]

The watermark is very dynamic as it can not be changed or destroyed by extracting clips of the music, or by using any compression technology like mp3 and it even survives if someone records the content with an analog tape recorder and then back to digital. This is done by adding an audio track that computers would pick up, but which music fans could not hear,[32] an art and science known as steganography. Due to the vast number of hiding techniques, detecting them all is infeasible and indeed detecting the presence of any could be time consuming.

Steganography can be split into two types: Fragile and Robust. While in Fragile steganography the information is easily destroyed if the file is modified, in Robust steganography the information is hidden in a part of the file where its removal would be easily perceived — the amount of changes required to remove it would render the file useless.

The two main types of Robust marking are Fingerprinting, which involves hiding a unique identifier for the customer who originally acquired the file and therefore is allowed to use it, and Watermarks, which identify the copyright owner of the file, not the customer. Whereas fingerprints are used to identify people who violate the license agreement, watermarks help with prosecuting those who have an illegal copy. Ideally fingerprinting should be used, but for mass production of CDs and DVDs, it is not feasible to give each disc a separate fingerprint.

It is possible to embed data within an audio files by taking advantage of human perception to mask a frequency. When two tones with similar frequencies are played at the same time, the listener only hears the louder tone while the quieter one is masked. Similarly, temporal masking occurs when a low-level signal occurs immediately before or after a stronger one as it takes us time to adjust to hearing the new frequency.

Since many of the formats used for digital media take advantage of compression standards such as MPEG to reduce file sizes by removing the parts which are not perceived by the users, the mark should be embedded in the perceptually most significant parts of the file to ensure it survives the compression process, but this would result in a loss of quality because some of the information would be lost. A simple technique involves embedding the mark in the least significant bits which will minimise the distortion. However, it also makes it relatively easy to locate and remove the mark. An improvement is to embed the mark only in the least significant bits of randomly chosen data within the file.[33]

In the past, to protect the music, a record company would come as far as inserting dropouts at various points in songs on an advance CD with different locations for each person receiving the disc to help narrow down where downloaded copies came from. Recently, big companies are not only putting notification on the CD that it is burned specifically for a certain person, but they sometimes also send a separate note telling that the CD can be traced and should not be duplicated, left with or heard by any other party;[34] and sometimes the artist's name on the actual CD is changed to prevent theft. In the case of Linkin Park, the acronym of the band's initials is kept (LP), but without the instructions the CD recipient is given, there's no way to know who the artist is before release. Names used in the past by the band include "Lion Pride", "Larry Potter" and "Little Ponies".[31]

Track Listing

9-Track Version

No. Title Writer(s) Length
1 Walking In Circles Chester Charles Bennington, Amir Davidson, Ryan Christopher Shuck, Anthony Valcic 4:59
2 Fadeaway 4:02
3 Fire 4:25
4 Morning After 3:39
5 My Suffering 2:21
6 Let Down 3:54
7 Twenty Eyes Glenn Danzig 2:05
8 Give Me Your Name Bennington, Davidson, Shuck, Valcic 5:04
9 Morning After Remix 4:15

4-Track Version

No. Title Writer(s) Length
1 Let Down Bennington, Davidson, Shuck, Valcic 3:54
2 Morning After 3:39
3 Fadeaway 4:02
4 Give Me Your Name 5:04


External Links


  1. 1.0 1.1 Linkin Park Frontman Plans To Brainwash Kids Into Liking His Side Projects - MTV, October 31, 2005
  2. Interview with Chester Bennington: Dead By Sunrise Thrive In The Moonlight | The Aquarian Weekly, October 13, 2009
  4. Julien-K - Julien-K made a live stream., September 15, 2017
  5. A chat with Chester Bennington, Chester Bennington interview, Dead by Sunrise, Linkin Park, December 11, 2009
  6. News: Broadcom's ex-CEO struggles to order his life | says, Henry T. Nicholas III, broadcom, don, money - OCRegister.com, August 05, 2007
  7. Level 7 Information Surfaces - Julien-K - Linkin Park Live, December 02, 2009
  8. Club Tattoo's Chester Bennington Interview, Pt 3 » Blog » etnies, January 31, 2008
  9. Feds seek to seize billionaire’s mansion in drug case - OC Business News - OCRegister.com, August 25, 2008
  10. Sordid allegations add to billionaire's woes - latimes, July 14, 2007
  11. Level 7 - Everything Linkin Park - Linkin Park Live, December 07, 2008
  12. Ryan Discusses Canceled European Tour - Julien-K - Linkin Park Live, February 15, 2009
  13. Warner Music Group names producer Rob Cavallo chief creative officer - latimes, October 08, 2009
  14. WMG Names Rob Cavallo Chief Creative Officer - hypebot, October 07, 2009
  15. 15.0 15.1 Exclusive: Linkin Park's Chester Bennington talks about his 'moody' solo album, 'disarray' at the VMAs | Showbiz News and Scoop | Studio and Network Dish | EW.com, September 09, 2008
  16. Linkin Park Feels 'Energized' to Write New Music on the Road | Billboard, January 14, 2011
  17. Rolling Stone : Linkin Frontman Goes Solo, August 18, 2005
  18. Linkin Park's Chester Bennington talks Dead By Sunrise | MusicRadar, November 20, 2009
  19. Inked Magazine :: Article :: Out Of Ashes, November 03, 2009
  20. Entertainment: Linkin Park's Chester Bennington talks Projekt Revolution - OCRegister.com, August 07, 2008
  21. Linkin Park Are Writing 'Delicious' Concept Album To Follow Minutes To Midnight - MTV, November 06, 2008
  22. Dead By Sunrise - Tracking "Too Late" with Howard Benson, September 24, 2009
  23. DevilBearRock Interview with…. Ryan Shuck (Dead By Sunrise/Julien-K/Orgy) | DevilBearRock Photography, May 02, 2010
  24. 24.0 24.1 Interview: Dead By Sunrise @ARTISTdirect, October 05, 2009
  25. The MySpace Music Feed: Dead By Sunrise and Lights - YouTube, October 06, 2009
  26. ShockHound - Features - DEAD BY SUNRISE: Chester Bennington’s New Lease On Life, October 26, 2009
  27. KROQ interview Dead By Sunrise (part2) - YouTube, July 05, 2010
  28. Interview with Chester Bennington: Dead By Sunrise Thrive In The Moonlight | The Aquarian Weekly - Page 2, October 13, 2009
  29. Possible Dead By Sunrise Tracklisting, June 03, 2007
  30. Chester: Dead By Sunrise | BLOG | mikeshinoda.com, February 04, 2009
  31. 31.0 31.1 LPCatalog - News, February 02, 2017
  32. BBC News | NEW MEDIA | Digital music's security flaws exposed, August 16, 2001
  33. Introduction, March 04, 2004
  34. Promo CD watermarking : Is this for real? | Steve Hoffman Music Forums, July 19, 2005