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{{Release
| Name         = All For Nothing
| Name=All For Nothing
| Artist       = [[Linkin Park]]
| Artist=Linkin Park
| Album        = [[The Hunting Party]]
| Type=song
| Cover     = Studio-The_Hunting_Party_cover.jpg
| Release=[[The Hunting Party]]
| Working title     = True Chainz
| Cover=Studio-The_Hunting_Party_cover.jpg
| Recorded     = 2013 - 2014
| Working title=True Chainz
| Released     = <!-- {{Start date|YYYY|MM|DD}} -->
| Recorded=2013 - 2014
| Format     =  
| Released=<!-- YYYY|MM|DD}} -->
| Length       = 3:33
| Format=
| Stems     = Stagelight (Linkin Park Bundle II)<ref>[https://lplive.net/forums/topic/11425-new-linkin-park-track-asteroids/?tab=comments#comment-239666 New Linkin Park Track: Asteroids - Newswire - Linkin Park Live], November 27, 2014</ref>
| Length=3:33
| Time signature     = 4/4
| Stems=Stagelight (Linkin Park Bundle II)<ref>[https://lplive.net/forums/topic/11425-new-linkin-park-track-asteroids/?tab=comments#comment-239666 New Linkin Park Track: Asteroids - Newswire - Linkin Park Live], November 27, 2014</ref>
| Tempo     = 160
| Time signature=4/4
| Key     = E Minor
| Tempo=160
| Samples     =  
| Key=E Minor
| References     =  
| Samples=
| Live debut     =  
| References=
| Last played     =  
| Live debut=
| Writer       = Linkin Park
| Last played=
| Producer     = Brad Delson, Mike Shinoda
| Writer=Linkin Park
| Label         = Warner Bros.
| Producer=Brad Delson, Mike Shinoda
| Misc      = {{Extra track listing
| Label=Warner Bros.
| Album      = [[The Hunting Party]]
| Tracklist=
| Type        = studio
| Tracks      =  
# [[Keys To The Kingdom]]
# [[Keys To The Kingdom]]
# [[All For Nothing]] (feat. Page Hamilton)
# [[All For Nothing]] (feat. Page Hamilton)
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# [[A Line In The Sand]]
# [[A Line In The Sand]]
}}
}}
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"All For Nothing" is the second track on Linkin Park's sixth studio album ''[[The Hunting Party]]''. The song features guitars and vocals by Page Hamilton of Helmet fame. According to Mike Shinoda, it is one of the most underrated songs in Linkin Park's catalog.<ref>[https://twitter.com/LPLive/status/1761739492493324408 Linkin Park Live on X: "We have answers about #TheHuntingParty! Paging Brad Delson 📣 https://t.co/2ZcnpGT26F" / X], February 25, 2024</ref>
 
==Background==
==Background==
"All For Nothing" may have a very "early-Linkin Park" structure to it, but the band as a whole thought the track was very similar to the alternative metal band Helmet, whose melodic, yet aggressive style was an inspiration to the band during the writing of ''The Hunting Party''.<ref>[http://www.lpassociation.com/forum/threads/the-hunting-party-listening-party-facts.40785/ Linkin Park Association], June 2014</ref> Seeing the similarity in style, the band decided to call in Helmet's singer, Page Hamilton, to sing on the track and add some extra guitar. Chester Bennington commented on how Mike Shinoda was struggling far more than usual to sing the track, and noted how similar Shinoda's voice was to that of Hamilton.<ref>[http://lplive.net/forum/?showtopic=10785 Linkin Park Live], April 2014</ref> Shinoda later detailed Hamilton's involvement in the track in an interview with Revolver Magazine, where he stated ''“That’s Page singing—there’s a double of me in there, but that’s him way up front. We hung out with him over the course of a day or two, and went back and forth over the song. It was just as much about meeting the guy and picking his brain and hearing cool stories about things that he’s done. But the other thing was, I really wanted him to know that this was a song we wouldn’t have made if I’d never listened to Helmet—you know, ‘It’s because of you that we wrote this. If you don’t want to sing on it, that’s OK, but we wanted to play it for you first. And if you want to be on the song, then you can be on the song.’ He liked it so much that he wound up singing on it, and he added some cool layers and chords on guitar.”''<ref>[http://mikeshinodaclan.com/2014/06/linkin-parks-mike-shinoda-discusses-the-hunting-party-guests-with-revolver-magazine-interview/ Mike Shinoda Clan], June 2014</ref>
"All For Nothing" may have a very "early-Linkin Park" structure to it, but the band as a whole thought the track was very similar to the alternative metal band Helmet, whose melodic, yet aggressive style was an inspiration to the band during the writing of ''The Hunting Party''.<ref>[http://www.lpassociation.com/forum/threads/the-hunting-party-listening-party-facts.40785/ Linkin Park Association], June 2014</ref> Seeing the similarity in style, the band decided to call in Helmet's singer, Page Hamilton, to sing on the track and add some extra guitar. Chester Bennington commented on how Mike Shinoda was struggling far more than usual to sing the track, and noted how similar Shinoda's voice was to that of Hamilton.<ref>[http://lplive.net/forum/?showtopic=10785 Linkin Park Live], April 2014</ref> Shinoda later detailed Hamilton's involvement in the track in an interview with Revolver Magazine, where he stated ''“That’s Page singing—there’s a double of me in there, but that’s him way up front. We hung out with him over the course of a day or two, and went back and forth over the song. It was just as much about meeting the guy and picking his brain and hearing cool stories about things that he’s done. But the other thing was, I really wanted him to know that this was a song we wouldn’t have made if I’d never listened to Helmet—you know, ‘It’s because of you that we wrote this. If you don’t want to sing on it, that’s OK, but we wanted to play it for you first. And if you want to be on the song, then you can be on the song.’ He liked it so much that he wound up singing on it, and he added some cool layers and chords on guitar.”''<ref>[http://mikeshinodaclan.com/2014/06/linkin-parks-mike-shinoda-discusses-the-hunting-party-guests-with-revolver-magazine-interview/ Mike Shinoda Clan], June 2014</ref>
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==Lyrics==
==Lyrics==
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Yeah
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Mike: The heavy shit, right here?
Mike: The heavy shit, right here?
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==Gallery==
==Gallery==

Latest revision as of 00:40, 27 February 2024

"All For Nothing"
Song by Linkin Park
from the album The Hunting Party
Working title:True Chainz
Recorded:2013 - 2014
Length:3:33
Stems:Stagelight (Linkin Park Bundle II)[1]
Time signature:4/4
Tempo:160
Key:E Minor
Writer:Linkin Park
Producer:Brad Delson, Mike Shinoda
Label:Warner Bros.
The Hunting Party tracklist
  1. Keys To The Kingdom
  2. All For Nothing (feat. Page Hamilton)
  3. Guilty All The Same (feat. Rakim)
  4. The Summoning
  5. War
  6. Wastelands
  7. Until It's Gone
  8. Rebellion (feat. Daron Malakian)
  9. Mark The Graves
  10. Drawbar (feat. Tom Morello)
  11. Final Masquerade
  12. A Line In The Sand

"All For Nothing" is the second track on Linkin Park's sixth studio album The Hunting Party. The song features guitars and vocals by Page Hamilton of Helmet fame. According to Mike Shinoda, it is one of the most underrated songs in Linkin Park's catalog.[2]

Background

"All For Nothing" may have a very "early-Linkin Park" structure to it, but the band as a whole thought the track was very similar to the alternative metal band Helmet, whose melodic, yet aggressive style was an inspiration to the band during the writing of The Hunting Party.[3] Seeing the similarity in style, the band decided to call in Helmet's singer, Page Hamilton, to sing on the track and add some extra guitar. Chester Bennington commented on how Mike Shinoda was struggling far more than usual to sing the track, and noted how similar Shinoda's voice was to that of Hamilton.[4] Shinoda later detailed Hamilton's involvement in the track in an interview with Revolver Magazine, where he stated “That’s Page singing—there’s a double of me in there, but that’s him way up front. We hung out with him over the course of a day or two, and went back and forth over the song. It was just as much about meeting the guy and picking his brain and hearing cool stories about things that he’s done. But the other thing was, I really wanted him to know that this was a song we wouldn’t have made if I’d never listened to Helmet—you know, ‘It’s because of you that we wrote this. If you don’t want to sing on it, that’s OK, but we wanted to play it for you first. And if you want to be on the song, then you can be on the song.’ He liked it so much that he wound up singing on it, and he added some cool layers and chords on guitar.”[5]

Speaking of the drums on the song, which are more programmed-sounding than on the rest of the album, Rob Bourdon said, "We wanted to have more of a sampled sound overall in that track. The verses have a sampled electronic sound. In that case we edited the live drums to sound more [rigid] on the grid, so that when we’re hitting the verse [from the chorus] it doesn’t sound too different. We want to have a similar aesthetic throughout the song. If the drums go from electronic and raw to garage-band sounding, it won’t sound cohesive. We actually recorded that song quickly. There wasn’t as much attention paid to the feel, because we knew we’d work with sampled sounds. It’s live but electronic at the same time."[6]

The short interlude at the end of the track is an original piece with Shinoda doing soft vocals over top of it.[7] Shinoda and Brad Delson can also be heard talking about placing "the heavy shit" next.

Remix

On December 24, 2014, several members from the Linkin Park Association community teamed up to release a remix album of The Hunting Party titled Viscera. The album was later released to the LP Underground on June 18, 2015 after the band received the full rights to distribute the album. There were two remixes of "All For Nothing" released on the album. One was done by Shurpi, and the other was done by zwieR.Z. The latter remix incorporates the famous "Crazy Train" riff into the song. The instrumental version of the remixes were released February 28, 2015.

Versions

Note: Only the date of the very first release of each version is listed.

Studio

Title Album Length Recorded Released Notes
All For Nothing (feat. Page Hamilton) The Hunting Party 3:33 2013-2014 June 13, 2014
  • Features guitars and vocals by Page Hamilton.
All For Nothing (Instrumental) (feat. Page Hamilton) The Hunting Party: Acapellas + Instrumentals 3:14 2013-2014 August 12, 2014
  • Official instrumental version.
  • There's a glitch at 2:57.
All For Nothing (feat. Page Hamilton) (Acapella) The Hunting Party: Acapellas + Instrumentals 3:33 2013-2014 August 12, 2014
  • Official acapella version.

Remix

Title Album Length Recorded Released Notes
All For Nothing: Shurpi Viscera 4:14 2014 December 24, 2014
  • Remix by Shurpi.
  • Released on LPAssociation for free download on December 24, 2014 in AAC, MP3 and FLAC formats.
  • Released to LP Underground members for free download on June 18, 2015 in MP3 format.
  • The band obtained all the rights to the album.
All For Nothing: zwieR.Z. Viscera 3:34 2014 December 24, 2014
  • Remix by zwieR.Z..
  • Samples Ozzy Osbourne's "Crazy Train".
  • Released on LPAssociation for free download on December 24, 2014 in AAC, MP3 and FLAC formats.
  • Released to LP Underground members for free download on June 18, 2015 in MP3 format.
  • The band obtained all the rights to the album.
All For Nothing: Shurpi (Instrumental) Viscera (Instrumentals) 4:14 2014 February 28, 2015
  • Remix by Shurpi.
  • Instrumental version.
  • Released on LPAssociation for free download on February 28, 2015 in AAC, MP3 and FLAC formats.
All For Nothing: zwieR.Z. (Instrumental) Viscera (Instrumentals) 3:34 2014 February 28, 2015
  • Remix by zwieR.Z..
  • Samples Ozzy Osbourne's "Crazy Train".
  • Instrumental version.
  • Released on LPAssociation for free download on February 28, 2015 in AAC, MP3 and FLAC formats.

Live

"All For Nothing" was included in the initial setlist draft Mike created in early 2014 transitioning out of "Runaway", a slot which ultimately went to "Wastelands".[8] The song was likely rehearsed since it was in Mike's guitar sounds presets for live shows in his keyboard rig.[9]

Personnel

Linkin Park is

  • Chester Bennington
  • Rob Bourdon
  • Brad Delson
  • Phoenix
  • Joe Hahn
  • Mike Shinoda

Production

  • Produced by Mike Shinoda and Brad Delson
  • Lyrics & Vocals by Mike Shionda and Chester Bennington
  • Background Vocals by Brad Delson, Joe Hahn, Rob Bourdon, and Phoenix
  • Additional Lyrics by Brad Delson
  • Engineering by Ethan Mates and Mike Shinoda
  • Digital editing by Josh Newell
  • Assistant Engineer: Alejandro Baima
  • Additional Assistant Engineers: Brendan Dekora and Jennifer Langdon
  • Studio Electro Tech: Warren Willis
  • Studio Drum Tech: Jerry Johnson
  • Album Production Coordination: Ryan DeMarti
  • Recorded at Larrabee Sound Studios, North Hollywood, CA
  • Additional Recording at EastWest Studios and Glenwood Place Studios
  • Mixed by Andy Wallace
  • Pro Tools Engineered by Paul Suarez
  • Assisted by Del Bowers
  • Mastered by Emily Lazar at The Lodge
  • Assisted by Rich Morales

Additional Musicians

  • Additional Vocals and Guitar by Page Hamilton

Lyrics

Album Version

Yeah
 
Uh, So what'cha waiting for?
Anticipating more
While you debate what it could take to instigate a war
Yeah, I been hated more than time I wasn't hated for
There's nothing they can fucking say they didn't say before
But you could never see it
Your battle's not mine
Wanna skate and play it safe but this is take a shot time
While you're waiting for a purpose I already got mine
While you tell me step to it like 1, 2, 3, 4
 
And if I do what you demand
(You say!) You'll let me understand
(You say!) You're gonna hold me to your word
And if I sell myself away
(You say!) I'll have no debt to pay
(You say!) I'm gonna get what I deserve
Woah, oh, woah, oh, oh
 
YOUR WORD / OBEYED
MY DEBT / REPAID
OUR TRUST / BETRAYED
ALL FOR NOTHING
ALL FOR NOTHING
 
Kick back there's no other way to say it
So let me break this fucker down for ya
I really don't know ya
You talk but let me show ya where to put your paranoia
You're joking, I don't have a half a sucker bone to throw ya
I'm disgusted, wonder what could've made ya tuck your tail below ya
And no I'm not your soldier I'm not taking any orders
I'm a five star general, infantry controller
Need a lesson? Let me show ya
Have you checking your composure
While I make you step to it like 1, 2, 3, 4
 
And if I do what you demand
(You say!) You'll let me understand
(You say!) You're gonna hold me to your word
And if I sell myself away
(You say!) I'll have no debt to pay
(You say!) I'm gonna get what I deserve
Woah, oh, woah, oh, oh
 
And if I do what you demand
You'll let me understand
 
YOUR WORD / OBEYED
MY DEBT / REPAID
OUR TRUST / BETRAYED
ALL FOR NOTHING
ALL FOR NOTHING
ALL FOR NOTHING
Oh, woah, oh, oh
 
Mike: Maybe we went too far.
Brad: I don't think we went too far.
Mike: Okay.
Brad: That's a good verse... put the heavy shit there.
Mike: The heavy shit, right here?

Gallery

In Other Media

  • "All For Nothing" is featured in the 2014 videogame Pro Evolution Soccer 2015.

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